TV SCOOP! ‘Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome’ Preliminary Concept Art Released!

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This isn't one of the pics released, we just found it on the Internets, thought it was cool and created a title for it.

***UPDATE: DOUG DREXLER HAS CONFIRMED WITH THE THE ‘TASTIC TODAY THAT HE IS ATTACHED TO THE BLOOD & CHROME PROJECT AS WELL***

“Happy New Year Shawn! Yes! [VFX Supervisor]Gary [Hutzel] drags my bleeding corpse with him everywhere he goes!”

Check out Doug’s blog at the Drexfiles, right here on WordPress.  LOTS of fun stuff there.

Well, Battlestar Galactica fans, it looks like the highly anticipated prequel, Blood & Chrome is quickly becoming a reality.  Last month, we reported to you in our Caprica post-mortem that the pilot for the series had been green-lit and what the premise was.  Blastr.com has obtained exclusive concept art from the show’s producers (scroll down to the bottom for the slideshow) and the word is that principle shooting is to begin in late January, 2011.

Galactica SITREP did a brief interview with writer and executive producer, Michael Taylor who provides a bit of insight into these images and into the pilot:

“Those pics were just the first of the many concept art sketches we’ve been creating. They don’t necessarily reflect any particular incidents in the script; as “concept” drawings they’re helping us flesh out the new world of Blood & Chrome. And it is a new world, one that owes much to the BSG series of the past but at the same time uses CGI to open up that world in ways that we hope fans will find fresh and exciting.

As for the show’s status, SyFy has officially green-lit a two-hour pilot, and we have begun pre-production, with filming expected to begin at the end of January, or very shortly thereafter. This is the fun part for me: seeing the script take tangible shape (or “virtually tangible” shape, since practically all of the pilot will be shot on green screen) as our director (Jonas Pate), DP (Lukas Ettlin), VFX supervisor (Gary Hutzel) and a host of artists — and of course the cast that we’ll soon be gathering — bring it to life.”

We have just a few observations about this latest news:

First, it seems to us that all of this is coming together amazingly quick which means either one of two things:  SyFy is incredibly eager to wash the taste of Caprica out of its mouth and breathe life back into the most successful franchise in its history or this is a lot of wishful thinking on the producers’ part as to how fast this is all coming together.

We’d like to hope it’s the former, but this whole process seems to be going at FTL speed for us.  Goodness, the project just got green-lit it in November and the casting hasn’t even been made public on IMDb.  Then again, this is Hollywood and if, as Taylor notes, virtually all of the two-hour pilot will be shot on green-screen then you don’t have to do a whole lot as far as set dressing is concerned and we suppose it could be done that quickly.  It’s the post-production and visual effects that will take a lot longer than usual.

Which brings us to another concern, not necessarily a criticism, but a concern nonetheless:  Virtually all of the two-hour pilot is going to be shot on green screen?  Really? Are we talking Phantom Menace here?  One of the more appealing aspects of BSG was the ability to effectively mix practical sets with digital elements to the point where it was generally seamless (at least in the interior scenes) and it always makes us cringe a little when we hear about such a dramatic shift in production (especially THIS shift because we are very much opposed to the over-reliance on CG) to a franchise known for high-quality visual effects.  That being said, Gary Hutzel is in charge of visual effects again and he is a master at combining practical filming and CG effectively (see: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and, of course, Battlestar Galactica).  So, at this point we will remain less skeptical than we normally would be.

We also need to correct the Blastr.com piece we alluded to earlier.  Despite what the piece says, Blood & Chrome will not be a “two-hour pilot movie,” it will simply be a two-hour pilot episode.  The distinction needs to be made because calling it a “movie” implies by its nature that it is a “backdoor  pilot.”  A “backdoor pilot” is a made for television movie that is produced with the intention of the movie acting as a pilot episode for a potential series but is written as a standalone, self-contained story if the series isn’t picked up.  This is an important distinction because if the indications were that a project was to be a “movie,”that would mean that the network would be waiting to see how the “movie” does in the ratings before ordering episodes for the series.  That means that if it doesn’t do well in the ratings, you’ll never see a regular series episode.  If it does do well, however, it will be several months before you’ll see new episodes.

If, on the other hand, a show is planned as a conventional pilot, that means that the network heads will watch the pilot, decide if it’s good enough to order additional episodes, and then proceed from that point.  They will then air the two-hour pilot episode and shortly thereafter, air the new series episodes.  If the network heads don’t like the pilot, don’t worry about the series being canceled because you’ll never even see the pilot.  There has been absolutely no indication whatsoever that the two-hour pilot for Blood & Chrome is anything but a two-hour pilot episode and in this case that’s absolutely a good thing.  SyFy isn’t going to wait around to see how the pilot does in the ratings when they already have the established BSG audience built-in, just as they did with Caprica, so if it airs (which we are sure it will) expect that the series will follow.

Yes, we are certainly aware that Blastr.com is a SyFy Channel project, but they got this wrong and it happened for one of two reasons:

1. It was completely intentional in order to hype the pilot. This is a well-known practice in genre.  The Star Trek franchise was notorious for calling two-hour episodes “movies” or “movie-events” in the mid-to-late 90’s and in more recent years, 24 did the same thing with their two-hour episode Redemption, and in fact, they are still clinging to this notion that Redemption is a “film.”  Nah… it was just the season seven primer that aired two months prior to the season premiere to make up for the fact that the series had gone 18 months without an original episode because of the writer’s strike and they wanted to spark interest in it again.  So, again, this practice isn’t unheard of, but it’s misleading for the average audience who thinks that “movie” implies that they will be watching an original feature film on basic cable.

2.  It was just a mistake, typical of an over-exuberant blogger. We freely admit that we’ve made similar mistakes based on our excitement for a particular project.  Simply look at our rating of The Event for evidence of that.  Blastr.com is a professional site but it’s still a blog.

Finally, we are very excited about the choices in writers for Blood & Chrome if what’s reported on IMDb is accurate.  Ignore the references to Ron Moore because he has nothing to do with the new series (and we doubt Glen Larson does either), he’s simply listed as the developer as a courtesy and because he is responsible for developing the franchise and tacking his name onto the project gives it credibility.

On the other side of the coin, though, it is being Executive Produced by David Eick (and that is confirmed, it’s not just a courtesy title) and Michael Taylor as well as being written by Taylor, David Weddle, and Bradley Thompson.  This trifecta of writers was not only part of the major core of writers for BSG but they are also responsible for some of the absolute best episodes of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as well, which has been hailed by critics as the best series of that franchise, and it revolved around an intergalactic war so these gentlemen certainly have credentials in that department.

The ‘Tastic will keep you up to date as we find out more about Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome.

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8 Responses to TV SCOOP! ‘Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome’ Preliminary Concept Art Released!

  1. This Pilot/Series may sound good on paper, but from what has been shown and presented, so far does not represent anything that can be considered a predecessor/prequel to Battlestar Galactica.

    B&C is basically going with the same premise as a reality show now, thanks to all the people that have such short attention spans and cannot follow simple story lines from one week to the next. Syfy has changed B&C’s whole format to be that of stand-a-lone episodes, meaning that any one episode will not be connected in any way to either the previous or the following episode. They are pretty much dumbing down the series, so any idiot can simply turn it on at any time any watch it it without having to wonder what happened the week before. Pretty much treating us viewers like first graders without any attention spans, what-so-ever. There is one strike away from what made BSG what it was. its great and compelling storyline and depth, which gave you something to look forward to in the following episode/s. Developing a great character base and interaction. Without a continuing storyline, you cannot have that character interaction, that made BSG so great.

    Then of course you have their idea of re-writing history and background to make the show more compelling. Like adding biological cylon created creatures, half human half cylon cyborgs and changing what the cylon centurians actually looked like, and not just tweaking them out to give a more modern appearance, but completely redesigning them to look like Predator and Alien escaped robots..lol. They might as well throw in a few Borgs while they’re at it….geesh. They were always good in Star Trek. For starters, these biological created creatures could not have existed, as well as the half human half cylon cyborg. The cylons never had this type of technology. Every experiment into this type of technology failed, except for the creation of the Hybrid, which needed to be contained in a pool of liquid and connected to a power supply. It was the Final Five that gave them this technology, at the very end of the first war. Anders is very clear on explaining this very issue in the BSG series, that the cylons were never able to create anything biological in whole or in part that could survive on its own. Yet SYFY seems to ignore these issues, to make the show more compelling.

    People need to go back and re-watch BSG all over again, especially the ones complaining about the multi-story lines in Caprica. I’m not talking about season 3 and 4, which most seemed to dislike about BSG. I’m talking about all of them, even the very first season. If you sit down and actually watch each and every episode you’ll see that not only did they have multiple story lines, but in some cases, even more than Caprica had, but that was alright because of the cylon interaction/battles etc. Well take another good look into BSG again, they actually only showed about 5-10% of actual cylon battles etc., the rest was great story depth and drama. The same goes for those complaining about the religious aspect in Caprica, about 50% of any interactions with the skinned cylons, they were talking about their one God theory etc. even Baltar’s angelic invisible girlfriend did this about 50% of the time. Also they needed to touch base on the whole one God issue, creating two religious type factions, since the BSG cylons were constantly bringing up and talking about their whole one God theory, yet 90% of all the people in the colonies believed in multiple Gods and they created the cylons. So this whole story behind why the cylons would have had a totally different religious view than the people that created them, had to be part of how the cylons were created. Like it or not, that is just simply part of the creation of the cylons. People want history and background, but when they get it they don’t want it or understand why certain things are being shown. Watch the original first, then complain, don’t go by only what you think it should be!!!

    People are just remembering the highlights and not the actually full length episodes. Sometimes the BSG series would go for 5-6 episodes without showing one single encounter with a cylon battle or baseship, it was all story and drama. So what exactly will B&C be bringing to the table to constitute it being any sort of prequel/predecessor to the BSG franchise, other than the Adama name. Also the use of the Adama name has to be embellished with re-writing his history and background as well as changing his age etc. It is simple mathematics that Adama would be only 16 at the start of BSG. He would be in the academy, at best, not assigned to Galactica doing combat missions. This is not just some simple time line glitch, it is in the BSG series, as well as Caprica which determines this. The only thing that was ever in confusion was his age during this time period and only because someone couldn’t add and subtract properly, which created two age time lines for Adama (one right one and one wrong one). Caprica even fixed this, and this was done well before they had established doing a B&C series. So how the heck could mis-interpret his age by about 5-10 years now???

    They state for Blood and Chrome that he will be in his early to mid 20’s? when in fact he can only be one age, 16. This is the simplest form of mathematics, not rocket science. If he was 18 at the end of the first war, then two years earlier would make him 16. The same goes if he was born 58 years before the second war that would make him 58 at the start of the second war, in turn making him 62 when the series ended. All these are facts and these are even in every time line (that he was 62 at the end of the series). The series time line from start to finish was about 4 years of history, making him 58 at the beginning. There was 40 years from the end of the first war to the beginning of the second war, thus 58 minus 40 equals 18, making Adama 18 at the end of the first war. There are so many references to his age (with the exception of someone’s error, creating two ages during the first war), that the exact right age is well determined, how can they not know this? Especially after just recently having Caprica fix this issue….lol, then purposely change his age in B&C to better fit what they want to do, with the show. This is just purposely creating historical errors. It is one thing to have this happen accidentally, but to do it on purpose, there is no excuse.

    There is just too many issues with B&C, that all it is going to do is screw up the BSG franchise, just to create something that has no real connection to it, other than the Adama name. Everything else is like it’s a predecessor to some completely different kind of show. They might have a good premise going with the show, but it just isn’t BSG’s premise and they shouldn’t tie it in with it, simple as that.

  2. Wow, Wayne! We’re thinking three things right now. First, thanks for reading! We really appreciate it and we appreciate you taking the time to write such an incredibly thorough post. Second, have you considered a blog of your own? Third, damn you, Wayne! Now you got our collective geek ire up and we have NO CHOICE but to respond to the myriad of points you bring up and we’ve got two other posts we wanted to do tonight! In the words of Captain James T. Kirk, “KHAAAANNNNN!!!!” 🙂

    Allow us to preface this by saying that before we go anywhere in commenting about B & C, we want to make it clear that we consider BSG to be the best show in television history… period… end of discussion. Anyone who didn’t like or appreciate seasons three and four… well, we’re sorry to say this but they didn’t understand BSG and the show simply wasn’t for them. It may sound arrogant to say that but it’s the truth and it’s exactly the dumbed-down audience that you refer to that doesn’t get seasons three and four. That being said, we are not proponents of any prequel to BSG, period. We realized this recently after Caprica was canceled which was coincidentally around the same time we were watching the entire series of BSG on Blu-Ray, straight through, for the second time in a year.

    The legend has been told. It doesn’t need a prequel. Everything we ever needed to know about the BSG universe we learned from BSG. The Bible doesn’t need a prequel and neither does BSG.

    We are reporting on this because A.) we always have an interest in good space-themed Sci-Fi, regardless of the franchise and B.) this story is of particular interest to our readers. It is by far our most read piece we’ve ever done, with the second most popular being the Caprica post-mortem piece we did. So, we just want to make clear that in principle, for art’s sake, we are against the concept of a BSG prequel.

    Now on to your points…

    First, what has been shown and presented is this:

    1. A one paragraph outline of the concept of the series
    2. Four pieces of concept art.

    That’s the absolute extent of it. Concept art may or may not have anything to do with a production. There are several pieces that the artists come up with in order to flesh-out the concept presented to them and these are just four of them. These images tell a whole lot of nothing and nothing can be concluded from them. They’re just cool looking and the reason they were released was purely promotional to spark interest in the project. So, how you can determine, based on this limited information, that this can’t be “considered a predecessor/prequel to Battlestar Galactica” is rather confusing. There is simply not enough information at all to make this or any other determination about the series.

    These conclusions stated matter-of-factly are beyond speculative. If we had an abundance of evidence and a recent history of similar production styles to refer to you might have a case to make but we don’t. We have one prequel that like the original was a serialized story so there goes the similar history to refer to in order to support the speculation and as just noted, we have a ridiculously limited amount of information about the latest project.

    Also, ignoring the fact that we are only talking about concept art and what the definition of concept art is, let’s talk about the main image that you take issue with. Again, you’re speculating an awful lot on what that is a picture of. How do you know that the image in question isn’t someone’s idea of what an experimental mechanical Cylon with organic skin on top of it would look like. The fact is that the Cylons were always envious of humans despite that they felt they were superior to them and it is completely conceivable that they tried many avenues to become like them or really simply, just think of the goal as simply trying to create a more effective killing machine to infiltrate the colonies… like the skinjobs did in BSG (or like the T-800’s did in The Terminator franchise). Besides, who’s to say that this wasn’t one of the many failed experiments by the Cylons? But who knows… again, this is only concept art. NOTHING can be concluded from concept art.

    Now as far as the 5% – 10% figure you threw out there, that’s just completely made up because the only way you would know the percentages would be if you sat down and watched every episode and timed every single battle/miltary-centered scene. Now, if you had actually done that you wouldn’t have posted a range, you’d have an exact percentage. So let’s just dismiss that because you’re just completely guessing.

    Does that make you wrong about your contention that in order for a show to be successful it has to have well-developed characters and story-lines? Of course not, but that goes for any show and BSG wasn’t unique in having those dynamics and not only that, those dynamics are not the only factors that contribute to the success of a show. For anyone to suggest that the “pew, pew, pew” of BSG didn’t contribute to its success… well let’s just say that’s a lot of wishful thinking. The action on BSG was like a good opening guitar hook: it may not be why you love a song, but it’s certainly the reason why you turned it up the first time you heard it.

    As far as the multiple plots of Caprica are concerned, we have never suggested that they were part of the failure of the show. The problem was that, unlike BSG, the show was nothing but sub-plots with no central theme or plot whatsoever. Now, we liked Caprica, but that’s a fact of the show and we understand why it turned audiences off. If you don’t know what the point of the show is, it becomes very tiring trying to stay interested especially considering how slow Caprica was. These are problems that BSG never had and as we pointed out, Caprica couldn’t even keep BSG fans interested, nevertheless anyone else and that was the point of the series according to the producers. They wanted to get more women to watch the show because the violence and war theme in BSG had kept women away from that series. What they wound up creating was a soap opera centered around angst-filled teenage girls and generally unlikable and unrelatable adults… with no central plot.

    You’re making a mistake in comparing the use of religion in BSG and in Caprica. There was absolutely no need for exposition on that subject. We learned everything that we needed to learn about the Cylons and their monotheistic faith in BSG. There was no reason to explain it any further. That’s the thing about faith and the omniscience of God that they made a point about on multiple occasions on BSG. There were simply things that you just accepted on faith and there was no point in trying to wrap your head around it. That, in essence is the point of that entire series (BSG). Now, again, the issue of the STO and the monotheism in Caprica, was not what caused it to fail (the only people that complained about this were the people who actively watched the show), but it’s simply another example of why we think that the concept of a prequel is completely unnecessary for BSG.

    We’re really not sure where your coming up with your math regarding Adama. According to the producers, and everything ever officially published about Caprica, that series takes place 58 years before the events of BSG. So, that’s an 18-year gap between the pilot of Caprica and the end of the first Cylon war. So what are we missing here? Adama is what… between 12 – 14 in Caprica, so if anything, by the end of the Cylon war, Adama is between 30 – 32, and yes, we are aware that makes Adama between 70 – 72 at the time of BSG which does indicate an inconsistency regarding Adama’s stated age of 62 (at least, as far as we recall it was stated) at the end of the series. So what? Should we be surprised that a Tauron lied about his age or anything else for that matter?

    And that’s a funny thing about canon when it comes to genre. What do you accept as fact when the facts contradict each other? Well, there’s two lines of thought on this. The first being that you refer to the most recent information regarding a given subject and accept that as canon. In this case, that’s going to be officially the information on the timeline as presented in Caprica (unofficially, what we know about B & C… because it’s not canon until it’s on-screen). The second being that you refer to the preponderance of evidence. In this case we officially have Caprica taking place 58 years before BSG and Adama being 12 – 14 years of age at the time of of the series. So, unless you can tell us where we’re wrong with our understanding of the timeline (and please cite sources), if anything, Adama will be much older than stated in the concept outline as it has been made public.

    Beyond this, though, even if you’re right with your contentions about his age, this is so incredibly irrelevant to whether or not the series will be any good. It really falls under the category of “who gives a crap?” These are the kind of details that only fanboys (which we proudly admit that we are) are concerned with. The average audience doesn’t care about this kind of minutiae and a series cannot survive on fanboys alone. In order for this or any other genre show to be successful it has to appeal to a broader audience, yes, even on a niche channel like SyFy. SyFy, as noted by the change in the spelling of their name and the change in programming from purely science fiction to a more diverse schedule, is trying to broaden its horizons beyond the traditional science fiction audiences. That means that all of their programming, even the science fiction programming, has to appeal to everyone. That doesn’t mean that the programming is necessarily going to the procedural, episodic route as you’re suggesting but it does mean that they are going to be more concerned about the narrative than they are the finer details of the franchise universe.

    Genre fans tend to have an over-inflated sense of self-importance which is why you see nonsense like fan campaigns to save shows that have been canceled. We hate to be the ones to break this, but we’re just not that important to this or any other franchise. Prime example: Star Trek: The Next Generation‘s audience was made up of 2% fans and 98% casual viewers…. and that was for the most successful Science Fiction franchise of all time. So that being said, as much as producers and networks pretend to care about their fanbase, what they really care about is that every other segment of the viewing audience is tuning in on a weekly basis, especially the 18 – 49 crowd.

    Finally, as to the contention that there are just too many issues with B & C, you have absolutely no way to determine that and neither do we. They haven’t even filmed the first scene yet. Why don’t we wait at least until we see the pilot before we determine that it’s complete crap?

  3. Well actually as far as the 5-10% figures, I have watched every single episode and sometimes in a marathon type basis. I love the story and story lines. It’s like watching one continuous movie, from the first episode to the last. Yes, I too liked every single episode, as well as how they tied the whole series together at the end, with bringing us up to our time now, 150,000 later with all our robitic technology. Then ask does this have to happen again…? Gotta love it. Couldn’t have ended it any better in my book.

    I have watched the whole series, every single episode, at least 10 times. I know almost the whole thing by heart. Also each battle only lasted about 5 minutes or less. They also didn’t have a battle sequence in every episode. In the first season alone they had 3 consecutive episodes that didn’t have one single battle in them.

    Average it out yourself. Even if they had a battle every single episode (which they don’t) and those episodes last 42+ minutes each, at best, with a 5 minute battle sequence, your looking at 12% battle to 88% drama and story line. Now we know they don’t have a battle every single episode. Some battles also may last a little longer, the same goes some only last under 3 minutes, as well…lol.

    About Adama and his experience, the Razor featurettes themselves even have him stating he hasn’t been able to get a shot at any clyons yet, as well as stating he doesn’t have any combat flight experience, on the very last day of the first cylon war. Right here alone is re-writing his history and background, just to make the series work. He age is definite, without a doubt.

    Also they are making it 100% stand-alone-episodes, BSG Re-Imaged only had a handful that could be counted as stand-alone-episodes. All the facts about the cylon technology is true. They even have their first scheduled episode about crash landing on an Ice Planet, sound familiar? Like the Cylon Snake image?

    Here is the link to the video ‘Day 4571’ the last day of the first cylon war, and see and listen for yourself about Adama’s experience during the first cylon war:

    At least with Caprica they didn’t have to re-write things to make it work, and would only be one year away from the first war at the start of the second season. We could see everything leading up to the war, the effect on the colonies before, during and after the war started, as well as the construction of all their Battlestars. The list has so much more history and background than B&C can ever offer..lol.

    Yes I do have a blog, filled with a lot facts about Caprica, BSG and B&C. Start on Adama’s background and history here:

    http://www.thoughts.com/CapricaNeedsSeason2/how-much-combat-experience-did-william-adama-actually-have-in-the-first-cylon-war

    • Well actually as far as the 5-10% figures, I have watched every single episode and sometimes in a marathon type basis…

      I have watched the whole series, every single episode, at least 10 times. I know almost the whole thing by heart. Also each battle only lasted about 5 minutes or less. They also didn’t have a battle sequence in every episode. In the first season alone they had 3 consecutive episodes that didn’t have one single battle in them.

      Average it out yourself. Even if they had a battle every single episode (which they don’t) and those episodes last 42+ minutes each, at best, with a 5 minute battle sequence, your looking at 12% battle to 88% drama and story line. Now we know they don’t have a battle every single episode. Some battles also may last a little longer, the same goes some only last under 3 minutes, as well…lol.

      Wayne, we were busting your chops a bit because we’re big on specifity here when it comes to facts and being able to back up statistics. There’s no question that the vast majority of the BSG story revolved around the characters and not the space battles but to minimize the importance of the “pew-pew-pew” factor is a bit misguided.

      One of the things that bugged us about the Star Trek franchise in the late 90’s (OK… we admit it… Voyager) is that every time they needed a ratings boost, they’d throw in a time-travel episode. And why did they do this? Simple: everyone likes a good time-travel episode. It’s a “can’t miss” and we even admit that there isn’t a single Trek time-travel episode that we don’t like… even on Enterprise! Damn them! They get us every time and we fall for it!

      The same thing goes for space battles. You get some good, heavy, space battles in there and you’ll hook viewers EVERY time and that’s exactly what BSG did in the mini-series and the early episodes. They got people hooked with the “pew-pew-pew,” then they toned it down after they already had the audience and foucsed more on character-driven, “big-theme” episodes and arcs, far less dependent on the action. Heck, there were entire stretches that there was no interation with the Cylons whatsoever.

      The problem we have with your “5% – 10%” claim is not that we disagree with you in principle, it’s that you make matter-of-fact statements and you either don’t cite sources or you misinterpret what you do cite based on your own emotional attachment to the franchise. Your analysis of Caprica‘s ratings issues that ultimately forced its cancellation is a prime example of that. You deal in a lot of specualtion that isn’t really supported by the facts on the ground.

      I love the story and story lines. It’s like watching one continuous movie, from the first episode to the last. Yes, I too liked every single episode, as well as how they tied the whole series together at the end, with bringing us up to our time now, 150,000 later with all our robitic technology. Then ask does this have to happen again…? Gotta love it. Couldn’t have ended it any better in my book.

      One word: perfection. 😉

      We concur 100%. We’ve said on numerous occasions that BSG feels like the story was already written, from beginning to end, before the first episode ever aired.

      About Adama and his experience, the Razor featurettes themselves even have him stating he hasn’t been able to get a shot at any clyons yet, as well as stating he doesn’t have any combat flight experience, on the very last day of the first cylon war. Right here alone is re-writing his history and background, just to make the series work. He age is definite, without a doubt.

      CORRECTION:

      We need to make clear that at the time that we made our first comments regarding Bill Adama’s age, we had not yet seen the final five episodes of the series including the finale, Apotheosis and therefore didn’t know about the big Willie/Bill Adama twist at the end. Our bad, and we are really surprised you didn’t call us on this glaring error. 😉

      That being said there are a thousand way to address the “age problem” which we completely concur exists after we pulled out the Razor Blu-ray and watched the extended cut and watched the webisodes and if we were writing the series these are some ideas that we would toss around to chew on.

      1. How are we defining years?

      Has it ever occured to anyone that the 12 Tribes probably don’t use the same calendar that we use here on Earth simply because a year is a definite unit of time measurement, specifically the amount of time that it takes for a planet to revolve around its sun. What are the chances that Caprica or any of the other 12 colony planets’ year was equivalent to 365.25 Earth days? The only measurement of time that we can be sure of is seconds, minutes and hours and that’s because we’ve seen enough clocks on the show. But we have absolutely no point of reference to how long a day is, a week is, a month is or a year is.

      So, the numbers may be all meaningless because we simply don’t have a frame of reference. Other than Adama late in the series, we don’t recall anyone’s age actually ever being mentioned and we’re sure that this was by design.

      2. How do we know that there were only two wars with the Cylons?

      Now, we will grant that in order to subscribe to this theory, you have to subscribe to theory number one. That being said, an old axiom of Sci-Fi franchise canon is that if it didn’t happen on screen it didn’t happen (unless your George Lucas and you allow every novel, comic, catoon, etc., to be considered canon because you personally approved it). The other side to that coin is just because we didn’t see it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, either and can’t be written into a later storyline unless it’s already been definitively contradicted.

      So, why not three wars between the Cylons and the 12 colonies? The only numeration for wars that was ever mentioned on the series was the first Cylon war. The current war was NEVER refered to as the second Cylon war by anyone on the show and it really doesn’t matter what production people think about it. If it’s not on-screen, it didn’t happen. So there’s no reason that the writers can’t write it into the series that yes, the first Cylon war ended with the armistace, but 3 months into it, the Cylons broke the terms of the armistace, thus beginning the second Cylon war that last another two years (12 Colonies’ years, that is… not Earth years.)

      3. Completely disregard the webisodes in association with the history of the franchise

      It’s that simple. On-screen canon is typically defined as what’s seen on-creen in regular broadcast. Extended cuts, re-integrated deleted scenes, video releases and Internet-only content is not typically considered canon. Just because Ron Moore said it was canon a few years ago, it doesn’t mean it has to be today. It makes more sense that it wouldn’t be canon than having it be canon simply for the fact that it wasn’t broadcast.

      4. Never let the details get in the way of a good story.

      On the Director’s Cut DVD of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Nicholas Meyer notes in the audio commentary that the biggest complaint he has heard from fans over the years is regarding the problem of Khan and Chekov knowing each other from the original series season one episode, Space Seed when Chekov didn’t even appear on the show until the second season (TRIVIA: Catspaw was the first appearance of Chekov).

      Our response to this problem has always been what we recommend for solutions one and two listed above: in other words, use your imagination. Just because we didn’t see Chekov until season two, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t serving aboard the Enterprise and would of course have been acutely aware of Khan’s attempt to hijack the ship. On the other hand, when Khan says, “…. but you… I never forget a face. Mister… Chekov… isn’t it?” he’s probably absolutely serious in that he does indeed remember Chekov. While he was in sickbay during Space Seed, all he did was study the ship’s records and schematics. It would seem to make sense tactically that he would review the crew manifest and records and take special note of the officers. After all, it’s been established that he had a photographic memory.

      Meyer’s take on this is 180 degrees from ours; he doesn’t care that there’s a discrepancy. He quotes Sir Arthur Conan Doyle who was notorious for the inconsistencies throughout the Sherlock Holmes novels in that he would never let the details get in the way of good story-telling and that’s the approach that Meyer takes in film-making. Aaron Sorkin has recently made similar remarks regarding his screenplay for The Social Network. Doyle, Meyer and Sorkin are all absolutely correct. The finer details aren’t nearly as important as a good story.

      With B & C, this may be one of those times where the die-hards are simply going to have to put the inconsistency of the timeline behind them if it helps to facilitate good story-telling. It’s kind of a bizarre assertion to suggest that because the producers may be disregarding the established timeline that it renders the whole series not worth watching. It’s one of those, “get over it, it’s a frakking TV show” things. Because after all, as much reverance as we have for BSG, it is, at the end of the day, just a frakking TV show.

      5. Refer to our prior post in response to your first post…

      Is it so difficult to wait until the show airs at least its pilot before we declare that it’s absolute crap? Don’t really know how many times we can beat that drum.

      Also they are making it 100% stand-alone-episodes…

      Again, sources? We’ve searched high and low and can find absolutely nothing to confirm or support this very matter-of-fact statement by you.

      All the facts about the cylon technology is true.

      See above: SOURCES, already! We can recall absolutely nowhere in BSG where it was ever stated that the Cylons did not experiment with organic tissue on top of cybernetic bodies and in fact what we recall is them mentioning specifically that they were trying to create organic bodies but couldn’t get the technology right. But, beyond that, again, do we seriously have to explain what concept art is… again? It’s conceptual… that’s it. It’s throwing a bunch of crap against the wall and hope something sticks! You’re over-thinking this.

      They even have their first scheduled episode about crash landing on an Ice Planet, sound familiar?

      So what? It has nothing to do with the Razor events.

      Read the details here for yourself.

      BTW: Thanks for citing our piece and linking to us on your blog!

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